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Old 10-14-2010, 08:14 AM
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from what i have seen, it would be much more likely for a G to have a mid/later style break (i have a few pics of this configuration) than for an H to have an earlier one (i don't have any pics of that style on an H) That said, i won't go so far as to say that it didnt' happen. if there is one thing i've learned is that almost anything is possible.
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Old 10-14-2010, 10:44 AM
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from what i have seen, it would be much more likely for a G to have a mid/later style break (i have a few pics of this configuration) than for an H to have an earlier one (i don't have any pics of that style on an H) That said, i won't go so far as to say that it didnt' happen. if there is one thing i've learned is that almost anything is possible.
same thing here. Some pics do seem to show this kind of brake but the Ausfürung seems hard to tell ... or the muzzle brake is not clear.
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Old 10-14-2010, 11:16 AM
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Thanks guys, I want to build a Panzer IV from the Kursk era someday, I have the tamiya early H kit, but as far as I know it could work fine as a late G, with some minor modifications, am I right?

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Old 10-14-2010, 11:38 AM
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Hello,

the muzzlebrake which Radek shows is called Zweikammer-Eichelform (something like twochamber-acornform).
This muzzlebrake is typical for Pz IV Gs. But they can also be found on some of the first Pz IV Hs.

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Thanks Notger, that's what I wanted to bu sure of

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I'd be tempted to opt for the Dragon Kursk F2/G due to the much improved surface detail over the Tamiya offering but if you want to tackle it, you could make it work with some alterations though it won't be all that easy. there is a back-date set that tiger models used to make, there's a review of it here.

http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.co.../tmd352033.htm

you could try that or do all of that yourself but by then you may as well of just gotten the Dragon kit IMO...... a lot would depend on the vehicle you're building as there are numerous variations in the G to H period but any way you slice it, it will require some work.... even with that update, would probably still have to scratch some stuff. I have a lot of mixed up spares now from this one if you need anything particular. ie: the final drive housings turret parts for the correct roof, etc.. i'd never find a frankenstein version where i could make use of all this stuff.....
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Thanks guys, I want to build a Panzer IV from the Kursk era someday, I have the tamiya early H kit, but as far as I know it could work fine as a late G, with some minor modifications, am I right?

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Not exactly ... although it depends on what you call "minor modifications".
Is modifying the turret roof or the transmission "minor" ?
There was an excellent kit by Tiger models that allowed these transformations but I'm not sure if it's still available.
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Old 10-15-2010, 05:58 AM
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There was a discussion over on a polish forum and the conclusions were that some late Gs had thicer roof, is that true?
And for example, what version is this (it looks like it has the muzzle brake of my interest):

http://jtrowbridge5.smugmug.com/Bund...97703496_GFhSE

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Hi Radeck,

The photo in your link is an very, very early Ausf. H.
And yes, the already during the Ausf. G production the thicker turret roof was mounted.

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went to the ipms show for middle tennessee and got back to work with this when i got home. been a long build so i thought best to brush it down with thinner first to get all the little dust specks off and laid down a coat of tamiya primer on everything to see how she looked. everything held up pretty well under paint which is a relief, it's always nerve racking to spray on the primer coat and see some terrible blob of glue or some gap you didn't notice before. the zimmerit was another thing i had some reservations about just because of the pattern but it looks the part imo and is as close to scale as i could get it. that said, i do have a couple areas on the turret that are going to require a bit of attention before i can start with the real paint. there something on the top of one of the turret shurtzen brackerts, maybe some stray flux or something i'm not sure but i'll sand that smooth and then i've got a spot of zimmerit that i want to touch up before respraying some primer on those parts. nothing major so i'm pretty happy at this point.






not sure about this black background..... have to wait until i have some color on this model to see how it really looks, too much like black and white at this point to know if i like it or not........

i picked up a new compressor at the ipms show and now my hose doesn't fit so i had to order an adapter for that. hopefully next weekend i'll have everything fixed on the model and have my airbrush up and running to spray some color on this thing. btw, i picked up a 1st in german ww2 armor and a
3rd in softskin
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