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Old 12-20-2007, 01:28 PM
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I was beginnig to think maybe it was just me but everytime I looked at the box art the Panther just didn't look right to me. I couldn't put my thumb on it but the front looks odd. Maybe the angles or something. Otherwise it looks great to me. It is probably going to be a Cyber Hobby Green box release which means it will be available at all hobby shops and such just like a regular Dragon kit.

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the panther looks out of proportion to you because of the perspective. It is ZOOMING at you forcing it to look larger in the front and smaller in the back. Looks like the layout or model was done in a computer and the artist, or more likely the marketing people had a field day trying to make it look even MORE exciting!

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Old 12-20-2007, 02:01 PM
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Nope that isn't it.....

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Guys,

the panther looks out of proportion to you because of the perspective. It is ZOOMING at you forcing it to look larger in the front and smaller in the back. Looks like the layout or model was done in a computer and the artist, or more likely the marketing people had a field day trying to make it look even MORE exciting!

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I thought about that but that isn't it. I have narrowed it down to the front lower hull and front tracks. It appears to be a little "warped". Run an imaginary line across the part where the front fenders attach to the hull. Below that line looks strange while above it and aft look fine. It appears that the artist exagerated the angle a bit. The lower right front of the tank appears to be to far forward and moving in a slightly different direction than the left front. Looks kinda warped to me. But thats just me. My opinion only.

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Old 12-20-2007, 02:25 PM
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Larry and Roy,

I actually see both your points! It seems the painting may be based on a photo taken with one of those screwy lens (fish eye?). Anyway, the track faces do match but they seem to come down closer to the vehicle's centerline on the left. That does seem unnatural. Or could it just be that the left mudguard is slightly up?

Does anyone have a completed model to try to capture this angle? PlanetArmor CSI (Creative Scene Investigator)

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Old 12-20-2007, 07:16 PM
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yup,

it's called distortion, trust me, its my job. Like Saul said, a fish eye kind of thing. The closer to the viewer the more distorted. Everything else recedes very quickly. I'll do a diagram........here you go.....the corner closer to you is more distorted because of the laws of perspective.

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Old 12-21-2007, 06:42 AM
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I'm with everybody else in looking at this and thinking there is something wrong with the proportions of the Panther.


It makes it look too narrow and too tall. Compare the height of the soldiers in the scene. Up against the tank their eye level should be at just below the engine deck/hull height.

The turret looks a little like its floating above the tank, only slightly though.

Still having said that it's still a nice illustration and hopefully Dragon haven't done the same with the kit inside.

I saw some old box art of Tamiya's recently, which took me back.

They used to do some nice "wow look at this, got to buy it" artwork on their stuff before the days of tank/AFV/ on white background

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Old 12-21-2007, 08:50 AM
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The paintings fine guys

Just perspective. Just as Larry has stated. Perspective is used to create mood, give the tank presence as well as some motion.
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One thing that could have this looking out of wack is if the perspective lines have a horizon point to close as appearers to be the case here.
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I'm surprised that some of you guys don't know about perspective being modelers.
I understand it, but my initial issue with the box art was plainly, that it should make me want to buy it and look attractive. I must say the idea used is interesting, I applaud that, but sadly at this perspective I don't see the beauty and the *click* does not happen in my brain.
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It's not a very flattering angle for the tank. It just looks bulbous instead of threatening. That's what happens when marketing people start to tell the artist what to do.

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Old 12-22-2007, 12:19 AM
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Geeze! This is a tough crowd!

Wonder whats gonna happen when we see the inside of the box with this much debate of the boxart alone!
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