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Old 05-01-2009, 08:55 PM
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Looks great, still a shame to cover it up!
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Old 05-02-2009, 06:46 AM
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Amazing work!
Don't cover it!

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Old 05-02-2009, 07:57 AM
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Looks great...
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Old 05-02-2009, 08:53 AM
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Unglaublich! Was kommt als nächstes?

What's up next, the fighting compartment interior? Once again, incredible work!
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Old 05-02-2009, 11:16 AM
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Hello my friends,

thanks for your replies. I'm still busy with the front compartment, see the

~~ update. ~~

Houston, we got a problem (again). Watch the not-so-present space between the MG grip and the backrest.

The grip actually touches the frame of the backrest piece of the seat. Like this, it would've been very very difficult for the radio operator to make use of the MG. Though the plans of the Elefant I got show that the MG is very close to the seat, it's not as close as shown here. I never thought of this earlier in the build and now I've to pay the price for it.
Steadily all these problems with the build begin to really piss me off. It's a never ending story. I guess I'll just leave the MG out and tell everybody that the crew had enough time to take it out when they were leaving the Elefant behind. The stupid thing is that exactly this piece would be in direct field of view of anybody who'd look through the opened hatches on a show or something like that.
Anyway, I appreciate any ideas or suggestions on this issue, maybe someone has a better idea, because I think if the crew had enough time to take out the MG, they'd also have had enough of it to blow the damn tank up, wouldn't they?

Zimmerit reworked. Also, those L-shaped pieces from the ABER set have been added (as well as some weld beads). I wonder what they were there for on the real thing?

The inclined front armor plate and the big corresponding weld line to the glacis plate were added. Later, some Mr. Surfacer 1200 for the texture was brushed on. It will be treated with some sanding paper once cured.

Slowly, I'm making my way back to the fighting compartment. These two pieces have warped due to the thin plastic sheet they were made of. I have to replace them.

I begun to scratch the actual construction the 8,8 sat on. The hardest part's already done, now it needs some more details and a little filling and sanding.

That's the current status

As always, I'm open to any criticism and suggestions.

Misses modelling.

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Old 05-02-2009, 11:48 AM
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Well, Johannes, again, nice detail.
On your problem: I have 3 options, one worse than the other:
1) Cut out the MG from its mount and leave only the mount in the inside(which doesn't solve your problem, giving that it is the mount that touches the seat....
2) Cover it up. It would be a total shame to hide all that work You've done...
3) Simply turn the MG in other direction (if possible... although if I remember right it is not, so it would need reworking...) for example towards the left side of the veh (it just killed an American asault team)...

Cheers Arthur
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Old 05-02-2009, 07:27 PM
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I know it's a heavy moment when this happens and its the real danger of super-detailing [now you get to research where it all went wrong, hull length..engine deck or MG ] that you are doing.
The MG was rarely left in place while not in combat or if it was the MG was pulled to one side [on Tiger Is it was down and toward the center] to keep it out of the operators face so perhaps that could be a way out.

Besides that I've been telling club members about your build and you're getting quite a fan club here in Australia .
Regards Coops

Life's so very funny, you just need to remember to laugh [note to the clowns].

Why would the clowns not let people into the tent? What's the point of the show if they don't? .

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Old 05-02-2009, 10:20 PM
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Talking Always a way around it

Hey Canjuaan

Great build and fantastic detail work you got going there,

Don't be so hard on yourself

Details and dimensions don't always go hand in hand.

1st The manufacturer of the kit takes liberties in its production of models,
That's why many modelers compare one kit maker to another as being more
accurate than
... you get the idea.

Then you have your aftermarket companies with their "flat" PE kits ...
that we adore and also forgive when they represent rounded parts with
"flat" ones and no one complains.

And then you have the resin kits that add detail but sometimes
with limited reference material which creates another problem altogether

Then we have another group of nuts like you and a few others here on planetArmor
that I will not name at the moment ... who strive for perfection

Advice: Perfection is not attainable So...

Do what everybody else does in this situation ... Be Creative

And you are great with your build and the ideas you come up with are mind-blowing

But here is something you can give a shot at...
it may at least spark your mind into another solution...
so go for it

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Old 05-02-2009, 10:27 PM
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Talking Forgot to mention...

I forgot to mention that you can always
pull the seat up, I mean those seats are functional? Right?

So pull the one behind the MG up and leave the other alone for an asymmetrical effect, like in real life.
And in that way you have more space behind the MG
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Old 05-03-2009, 04:56 PM
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Hi guys,

wow, thank you all for the great responses and tips for the MG. Coops, please say hi to your fellow club members in Down Under from me

Lost Legionar (your real name would make this a little more personal), you deserve an extra bit of thank yous. You really put some extra work in your thoughts, I really appreciate that.

Unfortunately, the seats were fixed to the position they are to be seen on the pictures, so I can't raise one, though it would have been an awesome idea and a nice additional detail.

So after some time thinking about the difficult situation and comparing the options I had, I decided to do what you suggested first.

I shortened the receiver by a quite considerable length to make it fit RO's position (better).
Of course authencity was sacrificed, but even with the altered MG I'll be happier than without it in the end.
Edit: If you compare this picture to the one of the original kit part a few updates earlier, you'll see the huge difference in length.
Also, I guess it will not be the first thing that will pop in the eye of the viewer when the model is completed - not to mention that not everybody will realize the wrong size of the MG immediately. And if the question arose, I told everyone it's a very rare field test version of the MG34, the MG34K - K for Kompakt (compact)

I'm sorry, more I couldn't do today. I'll be home very soon again and then the front compartment will be finished up for sure.
Oh, by the way, the Gurtsack (ammo pouch) wouldn't fit the MG anymore. I hope this is not too bad...

See you soon and thanks again to everyone for your great support and ideas

Misses modelling.

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